S2Ep39: A Great Entrepreneur Is Inspired by a Great Mentor

In today’s episode, Allan is pleased to welcome Amy Ransdell. Amy is an Executive Performance Coach, active real estate investor, and a real estate investment mentor. Allan and Amy discuss the importance of having a great mentor. As entrepreneurs, you are going to face challenges, and it is important to learn from those challenges. The best mentors are the ones that learned hard lessons and did something powerful with them.

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Hey, everyone, welcome to the show. I’m Allan. I’m a family man and attorney and an entrepreneur. Each week, we provide resources and advice to help build your business. Are you ready? Then? Let’s go. Everyone, welcome to the show. today. I’m very excited about our guest today we have Amy Ransdell with us. Amy is an executive performance coach. She’s an active real estate investor, real estate investor mentor. She’s a real estate agent, trainer, Investment Strategist licensed real estate broker and brokerage owner. So an entrepreneur, a business owner, welcome to the show, Amy.

And here I am. This is total honor to be on here. I really appreciate this. This is you cover a topic and help an audience that I absolutely love. So excited. Thank you.

Yeah, no worries, I’m you know, I think that you know, your experience, I can tell just from having chatted with you for a bit that you have, you have a passion for the grind. And my listeners do to my listeners are. They’re young entrepreneurs, they’re people that they want to make their lives better. They want to make the lives of the people around them better. And I just think that your experience, you know, can add so much. So tell us a little bit about some of the businesses that you’ve been involved. Clearly real estate stands out and tell us about some of your hardships early on, if you can remember back, and it’s hard for some of us to rewind the clock back to when we didn’t know if we were actually going to make it. But can you go through some of that with us?

Sure, I can try to do that I use the word grind. And there’s two words that like I, I love and I also don’t love. So this might become kind of a theme as we talk today. And one of those is grind. And one of those is hustle, there is this reality is entrepreneurs that we do have to be obsessed with what we’re going after, we have to be obsessed with the why and the want and the purpose behind it. Because there’s going to be a lot of grind or work that’s going to come with it. And a lot of times, you know, we read the books that the big promises and we see people be successful, we sometimes don’t think about all of the work that comes with that. But I also like to caution people that when you build around the concept of grinding and hustling, then you’re building something that you will always grind and hustle. And is that ultimately what you want. And really in the beginning of your of your jump into entrepreneurship, ask yourself those questions. And if I could go back and like go and save myself lots of pain, energy and, and all the things and all the resources that I could have back it circles around that where I didn’t design something, really towards the goal of my higher intention of the lifestyle decisions that I wanted. And I just would go after things and grind and hustle because I had this concept that as long as I’m grinding and hustling, and I’m getting, I’m moving the needle forward, but ultimately, maybe not moving the needle forward in what I wanted for my life. And so I was that’s probably my biggest thing, if I could think of some hardships early on, was that running things through all of it. So I wouldn’t necessarily make great higher intention decisions sometimes or higher purpose decisions as to where I wanted to move my businesses. That’s one but I could go through.

And that’s it’s so crazy, because I mean, I agree 100% and I, you know, as part of my morning routine every single day, I spend time imagining myself at different points down the road, right? So all imagine myself this morning, five years down the road, I’ll imagine myself looking in the mirror, I look a little older, right? I can kind of really just make it really tangible. And then I’m going to focus on one of the different areas of my life that day. Right. So if I’m if I’m focusing on my family, I’m seeing myself five years down the road. I’m having these conversations I imagined my kids. I have a three year old daughter, I imagine her eight she’s eight now and I’m having this conversation with her and we’re talking about things she’s struggling with and So I tried to get that, you know, one of the Habits of Highly Effective People, Seven Habits of Highly Effective People is that they see the end from the beginning. But as entrepreneurs, it’s so hard for us, for me to say, Okay, I’m going to put the day to day stuff that I have to get done, I’m going to hold off on the fires. And I’m going to spend time thinking about 10 years down the road, my bigger picture, how do their entrepreneurs do that? How do they incorporate that into a system?

I actually gave me some tactical answers to that, to be quite honest, but I want to speak to it just a little bit first, it is essential to spend time visually and mentally and emotionally in the feelings of what your life will be like in its ideal state for you my pain, this is one important I said something very important. I said, ideal state for you, not the ideal state of all the kids around us, well, you should be there, my colleagues are doing that peer pressure to do this, the next shiny Penny or squirrel in this next, you know, click funnel program or this, that and the other and I should go jump down this wormhole. And before you know it, you’ve got 20 million wormholes. And, you know, no, you can’t catch two rabbits. You won’t catch one. Right? So if you are we do that to ourselves, unfortunately. So the way to first tactically handle that issue is to spend a lot of energy very much in the future, and feeling how it feels for you. And is it what is that right? So like, if you’re gonna have a conversation with your eight year old daughter now three, now she’s eight and your future vision? You know, what, what do you want her to say about you? Dad, you’re never home? You don’t spend time with me? Or do you want her to say something else? What is it and by the way, again, there’s no right or wrong, it’s only what’s right, determine what that is very clearly. So that that can become the filter of the how as it presents itself, going backwards and reverse engineering and to all the things that are going to do now to move yourself forward. And by the way, it’s not just the things you’re going to do now. It’s also the things you’re going to say no to okay. And if I do say no hard hardships early on, now the big lesson, learn how to say no, very early, but how do you learn how to say no, you have to know what you want to know what you don’t want. So you know, spend energy again in the future as you can. So I do tactically every day in the morning, isn’t the first exercises that I do every day is visualizations just like you’re doing of my future, and I’m experiencing the emotion of the future. I’m, I’m feeling the wind on my skin, the colors, is it hot outside or not? Like I’m literally living within the moment of my future as if my future is happening now. Right and testing whether it still feels good, is that what I want, right? So that I can allow that to direct my intention for each day from a micro decisions to the macro decisions as to whether they’re moving my needle forward towards what I want. Alright, and so that’s a daily thing I said, I always tell people right after that, my suggestion, tactically spend a moment really thinking about what challenges you’re going to have that day. Alright, face the challenges, don’t not face them, don’t sugarcoat over them, and determine what they are. So you can make some clear filter decisions for the day is how you’re going to handle those to move the needle forward. And then remind yourself of what resources you do have, because everything you need at all times is all around you. And focus on who your champions are, who are the people that you can reach out to, to help you move the needle forward. Do that every morning so that as you go through the day, it becomes very easy to filter away the shiny pennies and squirrels because you’re laser focused on the excitement of that future that you manifested for yourself and reminded yourself of that day, right? That’s a tactical exercise that Prime’s your mind so that you literally live in the energy of your future all the time, people can be around me. And sometimes I forget that they don’t understand that I’m literally living way out in the future, in the present. So they will I get odd looks like OpieOP. I forgot you don’t realize where I am. But I don’t live in the present as much as I live in my future, while enjoying the present, if that makes sense.

It’s funny because I was just on the phone about an hour ago with my marketing director. And we’re, we’re creating a kind of spin off company integrating with one of our other companies. And I started talking to her about my vision for this company. And it got super granular, like I was talking about the types of people that I wanted to fill these different roles in the different departments. And then I caught myself and I was like, Oh, it was just an unnecessary for the conversation. But I had already seen, I already know what the company is going to look like even though I’m talking like 567 years down the road, before we have those aspects of that company. And I didn’t have that natural. I wasn’t inclined to think spend that much time thinking about where I wanted to be in the future when I first started in the entrepreneurial world. And I think there was a couple of reasons one, I think I I was, I was definitely short on time, but I didn’t know if it was the best use of my time to, I didn’t really believe in it. I didn’t think that it would like do anything for me. Right? I thought it was like there was a it was, you know, Frou Frou Voodoo or what? I don’t know what you want to call it, but but then we get older, right? And I’ve kind of been there and then I’ve read enough books, and then I started doing it myself. And I’m like, there’s so much good that comes from it.

Right? You know, we do, we sometimes think it might be kind of a Hocus Pocus thing, right? We’re also we’re young and ignorant when we just are the beginning. And whatever age we start at, we’re still young in the internet not playing that moment at that time. And so we only have, we only work with what we have in time and what we have, right. And if we haven’t had the complexity of experience ourselves to understand that these things help drive the needle forward faster for us, we won’t necessarily believe in them. Or if you don’t believe you’re not going to do them, right. There’s like a havior. But one of the things I will suggest to all your young entrepreneurs, and this is something that I’m very, very passionate about is truly, truly find in those who have accomplished what you’re accomplishing. And model excellence, really model everything that person is doing that’s been successful at something similar you’re doing and it’s their personal life and professional life, really research into how they live their life. Do they meditate daily, right? Do they work out every single day? You know, what, how committed are they to their health, like really pay attention to all the things because all of that is a picture of why they’re probably being successful at what you’re wanting to be successful at. And then break the learning curve a little bit and start doing the things that they’re doing, right. I mean, if I want to go be a an Olympic winning athlete, I’m going to go and study other Olympic winning athletes, and I’m going to do everything that they did everything they did as the least and then more, right. And so we want to do the same thing in business. I think a lot of times we just get excited about an idea. Like, well, I just did idea. It’s awesome. Nobody else has this idea. I can crush it. And we go after it. But we forget to realize it the wheel was invented a million times so great. If another guy knows how to build a wheel, then follow that to do they don’t have to have as many painful lessons along the way. And you’ll have greater success faster, right? It’s by reading books is so powerful. And I always tell people read books about other business owners. No Good to Great, great book, I’ll pick that up if you haven’t read it, like really pay attention to what other business people other people have done who have succeeded at a high level in business.

Yeah, I love this advice. And I get asked about mentors a lot. And I’m going to I’m going to touch on that. But this concept of, you know, finding that that model and doing what they do, there’s there’s so much that I’ve experienced in this because that it has to be the right match. I think that’s a big part of this. Because then you start to say, you start to see, like, Oh, they go to the gym every day. Okay, that actually, that fits when I already go to the gym every day, right? Like, that’s okay, so I’ve got that like, Okay, what else and then you find out that there’s these things that you may not associate with their high level of success, but it works for them. And then you pattern your your life and you do a lot of the things that they do. And it’s like it just kind of clicks, right? Because especially if you’re picking the right mentors.

Absolutely. And you know what I would say that to somebody, those of you that are doing that there’s so much gift to give yourself to acknowledge and affirm and celebrate your achievements. And so celebrate every little achievement along the way, if you can find a mentor and you’re doing something that they’re doing, and you’re like, Oh, I’m doing that, oh, I must be on the right track. Great. Take a moment to neurologically celebrate that so that you’ll continue the behavior, right. When you celebrate good behavior, right, then your body will want to do it again. Right. And so, ironically, and that’s what you want to do. So I’ve absolutely loved that.

Yeah. And you know, speaking of mentors, people always ask me, like, hey, how do I get somebody to mentor me? Right? How do I like, well, that’s, I mean, that’s complicated. Because if it’s somebody that’s, that’s worth their time, and it’s not that they’re bad people, they’re busy, you’re not the only person that’s asking them to mentor you, you know, or mentor them. So you have to get creative when you you know, if there’s somebody and you want actually some of their time, you’re going to have to provide value in some way. Okay? And it’s your job to figure out how you’re going to provide the value. It’s not them. It’s not, hey, I’m gonna go I have people reach out to me, hey, Allan, I want to work for you. And I’m like, Well, what can you do? Because I’m not going to, if you want to work for me, and you want to do work in my digital marketing space, but then I have to train Yeah, kind of defeats the purpose, right? And so it’s your job to go to them and say, Hey, this is something very you lead with it. Hey, this is what I can do. And I’ll do it for free. And I’m very good. Add it. Another thing is the mentor doesn’t need to know that. They’re your mentor, read their books. Some of my great you mentioned Good to Great Jim Collins. He is, and I’ve said this before on previous podcasts, he is one of my mentors never met him never spoke to him my life I consume everything that he writes all of his videos, he is my mentor. And the nice thing is he doesn’t have like, he didn’t have a decision in the matter, right? And so we there’s so much information out there. Instead of watching YouTube’s of, you know, cat videos or people falling, watch YouTubes of your mentors, right? What are they saying? What are they doing, and consume their books consume everything they do watch their live videos. And you get this is we live in an incredible. We live in incredible time, where this wasn’t available 30 years ago. And so I mean, books it was, but via social media and all these videos, it just wasn’t. And so to get a mentor, it’s not that hard.

It’s not it’s not all it takes with you. Whoever’s listening is an obsession about being better and better today than I was yesterday and tomorrow than I was today. And how are you going to do that you’re going to go do that by consuming the information that’s going to help you be better, because you’ve chosen to be obsessed with being better at it. That’s all it takes. Because now everything’s at our fingertips. You know, people ask me, How do I do something and I look at them and I say, Google. Like, I don’t you don’t anymore, we didn’t have that. I was just telling my kids reminding my children the other day, I said, you know, when I was in college, I didn’t have a cell phone. I didn’t have a computer until my junior year, I stood in line outside of a building to use a computer to type a paper. I was like, literally, and I come from a very different background. This is nowadays now when you want to know how to do anything, Google? And the answer is right there. And it’s unbelievable.

Crazy. And I Amy, I think it’s a double edged sword because it’s available, but it requires work, right? So people think, well, if but if I have a mentor and I go into his office, then he’s gonna tell me what I need to know.

You say he’s gonna say get the hell out of my office and go find the solution. No most mentors, I in fact, there’s a huge gap between mentoring and coaching, for example of a mentor, they’re not there to be a place to listen to your whining, or to for you to come to problems with they’re there potentially, to help you and ask the right questions for you to come to a solution. That’s really what they’re generally for. If they’re even being interactive with you in that way, right? Most mentors are simply there to be maybe a sounding post, maybe just somebody for you to mirror what they’ve done like to describe a Jim Collins, who doesn’t even know he’s your mentor, right? I exist. Yeah. So you have to give, you have to understand, you still have to do the work. And if anybody’s listening to your podcast, we were kind of describing like, where most of your listeners are on their path of entrepreneurship. At this point, you probably have learned that there is work to be done. There is no overnight success scenario, there really isn’t. And even the ones that we think look like an overnight success, they absolutely weren’t. And if anything, that’s a great thing we can learn from mentors, as well as go and read their stories. How many times did they fail? How many times have they rejected? How many times did they have to get up and try again? How many times have you have to start over? Like those stories are there? I love when I read about someone I highly admire and I find out that somewhere in their path, they might have filed bankruptcy or somewhere in their path. They had better business now, because people think well, then that’s a failed point. And we should give up but they didn’t give up right? So if anything learn the tenacity and the commitment that they had to their obsession, right, like, there’s just so much to be gained from that. But from a value interchange perspective, I’m with you on that. Make sure that if you’re going to talk to somebody and present to someone directly about being a mentor for you understand that you do need to offer them something there has to be something and by the way, had mean someone like you are that’s asked that all the time, I’m looking for that early in the conversation that says a lot about their intent, their character and how committed they are to what they’re wanting to do with me that they have even thought about that in advance of the conversation. And it still doesn’t mean that I will say yes, or that I can write but I’m looking at that they’ve made that they’ve thought about that before they even approached me.

Yeah, 100% I have a friend very, very successful in business and has great connections. And early on when he was trying to get his start. He had this guy picked out that he wanted to, you know, look to as a mentor wanted to get some of his time. But he didn’t just go to him and say, Hey, I need you know, five hours a week, he found out that he was he was obsessed with his son’s football team, right? This guy had a son, big into football. And so we hired a professional photographer, and had the photographer take all these, you know, professional, nice photos of, of his son. And then he sent it to this guy. And he’s like, Hey, I I know you’re busy, I know you’ve got a lot going on, I had a buddy take some photos, I thought you might enjoy these. That was the first contact. Perfect.

That was perfect. And I know those of you that are listening, okay? Again, entrepreneurs, we’re all in sales, whether you want to call yourself that or not want to put that title on that hat on, I don’t really care, you are insane. And one things that we learn about in sales is exactly that. Right? It’s like really paying attention to what means something, what feels good to whoever it is that we want to interact with in our business, right, and then allowing that to drive it like I was just talking to someone the other day that found out that one of the prospects that she has been trying to build a relationship with their child just got accepted to a college is kind of a big deal. They just happen to say it kind of often. So what does she do, she went and bought a coffee cup with the college information on it and put together a little care package for her to give to her call it her soon to be college attending. And it meant so much to this prospect that this, remember that fact about her and then took action on it. You know, that’s just again, very powerful, good, just business reminder that you just brought up for everyone, I think is key, right? We do it all the time in our sales, even in an email reply, we bring up something personal Yeah,

yeah, it’s the same thing with you know, customers or clients, it’s not their job to find a reason to do business with you, it’s your job to tell them over and over and over and over and over why they should do business with you. And it’s the same with a mentor, right. And if you know you’re an entrepreneur, you’re gonna have to learn this concept, that at some point, that is your job. So you have to bring that value to the table. And I love talking about mentoring, because it’s, it’s been such a huge aspect in in my life, I, I started reading, Mike came from a small farming community, and people didn’t really leave, there were 2000 people, there’s one stoplight, I graduated with 60 people, and people didn’t really leave, they stayed and worked on the farms. And there’s nothing wrong with that. But I wanted something else. And I didn’t really have somebody to show me the way. And so I just started reading books. And then the more I read, the more I realized I could accomplish. And the more that I saw people were doing it motivated me. And, and mentors can be a double edged sword, because you can start to see some of those flaws, like you were talking about. And some people are like, you know, they’ll see those flaws. And they’ll be like, I mean, you have such a great outlook, you’re like, hey, they they overcame these issues. And some people are like, Oh, really, okay, like, XYZ, whatever, and kind of becomes disenfranchised with them. And

I see that as well. Absolutely. And by the way, I come from a similar small town, but there was like a party when we got a flashing light, like those are living. So you’re right, some people it does Jay them the other direction to hear about. And so I want to encourage everyone that’s listening, allow yourselves to understand that, that there there are better lessons sometimes to be learned for how people overcame challenges than for those either claim they never had any, okay, or never have experienced those. And in the real world right now, for example, a lot of people have jumped into real estate in the last few years, and they’ve been hyper successful. And people like me are 20 year veterans, in different niches of the of the industry. I feel like I’m much more prepared for anything that’s going to come because I’ve had to deal with shifts in the market, things going wrong, things come turning inside out and upside down. And that’s taught me better decision making strategies and the tenacity necessary to move forward. I do an exercise with a lot of our program members here for the powerhouse program, which is entrepreneurial coaching support, and we do this whole exercise about potholes, you know, like a pothole is an exciting thing. Right? And everybody looks at me like what are you talking about? I’m like, yeah, you know, like you’re moving on. You’re driving down the highway, things are going great. And then there’s this huge pothole, right, you have a choice, this is exciting. I can I can build a bridge over the pothole, I can jump over I go to the left and then the right angle, climb down and it’s broken down in there and then climb my way back up the other side. I there’s so many cool and exciting things I could do with a pothole, and you put them through this whole creative process of coming up with this unlimited list of all the things that you can do with a pothole. And all of a sudden, we start to realize how empowering a pothole is because it enables us to realize where we might want to pivot in our business that we would have complacently never even addressed if we hadn’t had the pothole present itself. And I think with mentors, I think that’s one of the most powerful things we get from a mentor is that simple. Their path, they had to experience potholes, and they had to come up with creative solutions around them and they didn’t quit and it didn’t give up and it didn’t just crash into the puddle and die. They kept moving forward. And that’s it’s those lessons. It’s learning where the potholes are on the road. Where are the alligators in the swamp from other people who’ve experienced them because life will bring you challenges and as entrepreneurs, you are going to face challenges. Please do not tell yourselves you want is one of the biggest services you can give yourself. Challenges are exciting. They’re fun, they’re opportunities to learn new things. Expand in different directions, meet new people, everything positive, every challenge is working for you, every single one of them, if you’ve got to make the direct choice to decide that they are working for you and allow them to be a lesson in a great direction, and sometimes even closing their doors entirely, and starting over again, is one of the most powerful gifts you can give yourself like, No joke, and those to me are the best mentors, the ones that learned those lessons and did something powerful with it.

Yeah. And it’s, it’s funny, because entrepreneurs just like most people, we kind of have our head in the clouds a little bit. And we think, Oh, well, yeah, other businesses fail, but my wall or other business base, this or that, my wall. But it’s those moments, it’s and I’m trying to frame this in the right way. But COVID isn’t 100% bad. There are companies that are stronger now. Right? There are a lot of companies there, you know, a lot of employees are benefiting from staying at home being having more flexibility with their work. All these things that before we said was impossible. And it became possible because it had to. And I think from our challenges, there’s just, and it sucks going through that it does. It sucks being slowed down by something. But when we look at the mentors that we have in our lives, and we see what they’re accomplishing, and we’re seeing, Hey, man, they’re human, and they did these incredible things I can to, you know, I think that’s fantastic.

It is and I want to say something about the COVID thing today, I’m actually really, this is gonna suck I’m worried about framing as well. But like some of the data that will come out of the of this couple of years that to look at it 10 years from now, it is unbelievable, really some of the pivots that companies have made that have had the biggest lessons about human behavior, about about work performance, about, you know, the culture of their company, and where their company was failing and its culture. And now they realized where they can fill those gaps that they would have never, never even noticed or function to, until all of a sudden the world had to be operated differently, right. Some of the best inventions, some of the best programs, some of the biggest, coolest, most amazing things have come out of this year and a half as companies found creative pads to deal with these big shifts in our in our environment, right. So I again, embracing it. Now, I’m going to say this is also this call the elephant in the room that there are, you know, many, many people who were hurt horribly by the COVID scenario, but a lot of times for a lot of people it was that they weren’t prepared to look at it as how can this make things work? For me, the restaurant industry, for example, I know a lot of people who were crushed by COVID I know a lot of restaurants in the same exact markets where they had the same shutdown rules that thrived because they decided to sue they pivoted they decided say well, how can we make this work for us? We have this equipment, we have these resources, we have this we have this this? How can we make it reforming and they have bigger and stronger businesses now, right? I know a guy who has tripled the size of his restaurant holdings company through this it whereas other people went the other way. And so a lot of it comes down to you know, really it’s a mindset thing. It’s you know, how obsessed and committed are you? Are you willing to be realistic about the challenge is you have to be realistic about it. How creative and excited are you to move forward in a direction that can sustain your goal. And it might mean that the path to it’s gonna change, but that doesn’t mean that the goal itself for your life has to change. And so I think that that, that that was an you know, where the kind of men and the boys got separated?

Yeah, 100% and the thing is that if we could rewind time and decide we had the power to not let COVID happen of course of court, but that’s kind of the epitome of of challenges. And we’re gonna have challenges in our businesses, especially in the startup phase, man, especially when you’re getting going. And it’s that’s a foregone conclusion. The only question is, what are you going to do about it? Oh, yeah,

and the most important word in my in my opinion, and that’s doo doo is such a big word guys do letter attached to it on yourself somewhere. I always tell if I could if I my team will tell you here if there’s two words like a tattoo on my team, it’d be intention and consistency. What does that come down to do? Right? I’m going to do everything with intention consistently. All right. And so give yourself that gift in your businesses because you’re right especially in the startup phase we’re exponentially learning what who our avatar is what they respond to what they’re going to bite on not who’s going to buy who’s not you know, who’s gonna resonate with our message where’s our tribe like all these things are happening in the startup phase and at the same time that all of our environment is shifting around us in crazy ways because our family our friends or our everybody’s like experiencing a new you as you go after a different direction in this crazy obsession they may or may not agree with Then we’re having to look for new resources. And we’re reading new things, we’re experiencing new things your whole world is changing when you’re in in startup phase. And it’s a powerfully awesome place. But I also know how crazy it can feel. It’s like putting an emergency brake on the car when you’re going 65 miles an hour. And I’m sitting there like, oh, by, but it’s such a great place to have so many great things come from that we mentioned earlier, a lot of companies and how they pivoted with COVID at Riva global, which is one of the companies that I’m the CMO for virtual assistant company. We watched every one of our clients you talk about with hundreds of clients all of a sudden in a pivot decision, right? And helping them figure out how to go through that. Like I think I had more conversations with entrepreneurs and I ever have in those first couple of months of COVID and really felt with them the feelings of being fired up phase and now all of a sudden are like, well, I don’t have my employees won’t come in because they are afraid of it. And COVID this is questions, question especially well, how do we reset things? And it can be empowering if you look at it that way?

Yeah, I love it. Well, I mean, I wish we had another, you know, a couple of hours to talk about this stuff. things. I’m very passionate about challenges and finding a mentor and kind of going through this process of, you know, getting punched in the face as you’re opening your business and getting getting rolling. So well. It’s been a pleasure. Where can people find out a little bit more about all the great things that you’re doing, Amy?

Oh, awesome. I would love to connect with as many of your listeners as possible, you can find me on Instagram on its me ran still be powerhouse. or reach out to me through Riva global if you were a virtual assistant provider for entrepreneurs. That’s what we do we help entrepreneurs scale efficiently with talented skilled team members. We are not like a contract for hire like fiverr.com or something like that. We actually provide you full time, part time or full time team members for your business, a fraction of the costs of hiring somebody locally, that are highly skilled, educated, amazing individuals. So it’s fun, we work I get to work with entrepreneurs every day and we really enjoy that. So check out Riva global.com. We’re also on social media platforms as Riva global and then me personally, please find me on Instagram or Facebook, send me a private message. If I can be of support or resource or referral myself or the best team member to do that will absolutely help.

Okay, love it. Thanks so much for joining us today. Amy.

Thank you. I so appreciate this. This is like a topic near and dear to my heart. So you know all of you all listening, keep going, keep going, keep going go after it. Don’t stop. Love it. Thank you.

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